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Robin Harritt
2004-09-16 11:31:48 UTC
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Have all of you given up being adopted, or separated by adoption, or
even caring about adoption and the effects - good and bad - that it has
on people's lives?

Robin
Matt Probert
2004-09-16 15:19:06 UTC
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On Thu, 16 Sep 2004 12:31:48 +0100 Robin Harritt
Post by Robin Harritt
Have all of you given up being adopted, or separated by adoption, or
even caring about adoption and the effects - good and bad - that it has
on people's lives?
What about you, Robin?

Were you adopted? Do you know the trauma it can cause being "dumped"
as a baby, and spending your life being told how you were adopted and
"how lucky you are not to be in an orphanage" ???

The anguish one goes through wondering whether or not to trace one's
natural parents, wondering why you were deserted, whether or not you
have siblings, and perhaps most of all who the hell you are?

Or the second feeling of desertion that comes after spending months
patiently waiting, and being interviewed by social services before you
put your details on the adoption contact register only to find that
none of your natural relatives have registered, as though they not
only dumped you like an unwanted burger wrapper but have forgotten you
just as quick?

I can't think of anything positive to say about adoption, except for
cases I know of where babies have been adopted to protect from a
childhood of abuse.

Matt

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Robin Harritt
2004-09-16 19:32:13 UTC
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Post by Matt Probert
On Thu, 16 Sep 2004 12:31:48 +0100 Robin Harritt
Post by Robin Harritt
Have all of you given up being adopted, or separated by adoption, or
even caring about adoption and the effects - good and bad - that it has
on people's lives?
What about you, Robin?
Were you adopted? Do you know the trauma it can cause being "dumped"
as a baby, and spending your life being told how you were adopted and
"how lucky you are not to be in an orphanage" ???
Hello Matt

I assume you are a complete newcomer to these groups.

Most of the regulars who seem to have disappeared of late, will know
that I am adopted having spent a part of my first two years in
orphanage. Had whole load of siblings who were also adopted.
Post by Matt Probert
The anguish one goes through wondering whether or not to trace one's
natural parents, wondering why you were deserted, whether or not you
have siblings, and perhaps most of all who the hell you are?
I'm also a volunteer worker for an adult post adoption charity so I hope
I understand what various people feel about those aspects of adoption
and of course I've been through all of that myself.
Post by Matt Probert
Or the second feeling of desertion that comes after spending months
patiently waiting, and being interviewed by social services before you
put your details on the adoption contact register only to find that
none of your natural relatives have registered, as though they not
only dumped you like an unwanted burger wrapper but have forgotten you
just as quick?
The main reason that none of your birth relatives are on it is probably
because they have never heard of it. It's a ridiculous rip off run by
people who haven't a clue. I didn't put up with much of that sort of
nonsense, I went out and got on with searching. Have you tried the
NORCAP Register? Doing your own search?
Post by Matt Probert
I can't think of anything positive to say about adoption, except for
cases I know of where babies have been adopted to protect from a
childhood of abuse.
But that isn't that what most adoption in the UK is about today?
Sometimes mistakes are made but not often.

Robin
Matt Probert
2004-09-17 06:50:38 UTC
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On Thu, 16 Sep 2004 20:32:13 +0100 Robin Harritt
<***@not.never.ever> broke off from drinking a cup of tea at to
write:

Whoa, sorry!

Didn't mean to upset anyone!

Still, if you've been through it, I expect you'll understand and
therefore forgive me some of my anger. It has hurt for a long time....

Just for the record, it all happened in 1964.

I have tried tracing, but have had no luck, which is strange, because
the surname in question is very rare - there were just 6 listed in the
electoral roll a few years ago!

So, yes I should be very receptive to sensible suggestions about how
to go about tracing, in a tactful manner. I am sensitive to the
potential embarrasement or difficulties it could cause the natural
family, so a full page ad in The Times is out <g> !


Matt


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Robin Harritt
2004-09-17 10:32:11 UTC
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Post by Matt Probert
On Thu, 16 Sep 2004 20:32:13 +0100 Robin Harritt
Whoa, sorry!
Didn't mean to upset anyone!
Still, if you've been through it, I expect you'll understand and
therefore forgive me some of my anger. It has hurt for a long time....
Just for the record, it all happened in 1964.
I have tried tracing, but have had no luck, which is strange, because
the surname in question is very rare - there were just 6 listed in the
electoral roll a few years ago!
Yes the name that you mentioned in previous post is rare in the UK, only
three households listed on InfoDisk. But have you searched in the
marriage indexes for a marriage and her married name?
Post by Matt Probert
So, yes I should be very receptive to sensible suggestions about how
to go about tracing, in a tactful manner.
If you do not have a marriage certificate for her, finding if she
married and if so to whom and what her name became, is your next step.
How and where to do that rather depends on where you live now, the
Indexes are at various libraries and a the Family Record Center in
Islington, they are also online at http://www.1837online.com which is a
pay to use site.
Post by Matt Probert
I am sensitive to the
potential embarrasement or difficulties it could cause the natural
family, so a full page ad in The Times is out <g> !
Of course a full page ad in the Times gets thrown away the next morning,
whilst publishing her full maiden name on a newsgroup like this remains
for as long as Google continue to archive newsgroups, and here, an
adoption searching group, it is pretty obvious why you are searching.
I'm not making any judgments on whether or not you should not have put
details here, just that if you think it would have been embarassing if
seen in the Times, why would it be any less so if seen here, or in years
to come, on Google?

Robin
Robin Harritt
2004-09-17 11:17:47 UTC
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I guess this is as good a time as any to repeat where I am at re searching.

Pretty much found all the siblings on my mother's side (9 of her 11
children remain including me 7 of us were adopted or longterm fostered),
hoping one day the family of one brother who died in his early 30s will
contact me.

Right now I'm interested in finding my foster family. And leaving a
trail for any of my siblings on my father's side to find should they
ever search. So here's the info on that.

Still searching for foster family, Threadgold

Apologies to all who have seen this too many times before. Just on the
off chance that anyone recognises the names. I am searching for members
of my foster family from before my time in Barnardos. I am trying to
find Penelope and Cynthia who in 1954 had the surname Threadgold. I
believe Penelope was then 7 years old and Cynthia 12. They lived at
various addresses in York Rd Southend-on-Sea, with Frank and Hilda
Threadgold. The problem is that although Penelope and Cynthia used the
name Threadgold there is no evidence that they were actually the
children of Frank and Hilda and no evidence that either of them married
using the name Threadgold. It would appear that in 1956/7 Frank and
Hilda returned to Manchester where they had originally come from. But
in the early 1960s I know that Penelope was resident in the borough
children's home in Shoeburyness Essex. Farnk and Hilda have since died.
Penelope and Cynthia would have known me as Gareth Dafydd Curle.

Searches using info-disk the uk electoral register etc have all been
unsuccessful they simply do not appear there.

Hilda may have died at Withington Hospital Manchester in 1989. I have a
death certificate which shows the deceased's usual address as
Withington Hospital Manchester the informant was a James Fitton of the
same address, qualification Occupier. There seems to be some confusion
over some of the deceased's details, I suspect that she is the Hilda
Threadgold who I have been searching for many years but the death has
been registered in the name Hilda Lloyd widow of ---- Lloyd Occupation
Unknown. Hilda Threadgold's husband's full name was Frank Lloyd
Threadgold Mrs Threadgold and Mrs Lloyd have the same date of birth
both were supposedly born in Manchester, I strongly suspect given that
Hilda Threadgold has disappeared of the face of the earth, that they
are the same person, but need to be able to prove it. Frank died at the
Withington in 1968/9


Re Peter Williams

I am still seeking anyone who has the name Peter Thomas Williams
mentioned in their adoption file. I believe his full name was Peter
Thomas Douglas Williams and that he was born on the 3rd of March 1927 at
415 Romford Rd, Forest Gate, West Ham (County Borough as it then was) in
the UK. His family later moved to Harold Hill/ Romford, Essex. Peter was
said to have worked as a "Wall of Death Motor Cyclist at the Kursaal in
Southend-on-Sea, Essex in the early 1950s. Peter also worked at various
times as a "Motor Lorry Driver (Contractors)" and as a "Delivery Van
Driver". I believe he died on the 7th of January 1982 at Westminster
Hospital, London.


Robin Harritt

http://harritt.net

E-mail robin at robin dot org

AIM RobinHN7
doug thomas
2004-09-16 20:29:40 UTC
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Post by Matt Probert
On Thu, 16 Sep 2004 12:31:48 +0100 Robin Harritt
Post by Robin Harritt
Have all of you given up being adopted, or separated by adoption, or
even caring about adoption and the effects - good and bad - that it has
on people's lives?
What about you, Robin?
Were you adopted? Do you know the trauma it can cause being "dumped"
as a baby, and spending your life being told how you were adopted and
"how lucky you are not to be in an orphanage" ???
The anguish one goes through wondering whether or not to trace one's
natural parents, wondering why you were deserted, whether or not you
have siblings, and perhaps most of all who the hell you are?
Or the second feeling of desertion that comes after spending months
patiently waiting, and being interviewed by social services before you
put your details on the adoption contact register only to find that
none of your natural relatives have registered, as though they not
only dumped you like an unwanted burger wrapper but have forgotten you
just as quick?
I can't think of anything positive to say about adoption, except for
cases I know of where babies have been adopted to protect from a
childhood of abuse.
Matt
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http://www.probertencyclopaedia.com
I have been absent for some period of time now, as I ran out of things to
say,

This does however bring me back.

I am an adoptee who is now a barrister and solicitor and often represent
parents whose children have been lost to Children's Aid.

Many of the parents whose children are adopted are unable or unwilling to
put their names on the adoption registers through no fault of their own.
Mental illness springs to mind as one reason, and another is sheer ignorance
of the facts relating to adoption disclosure.

You have a presumption that a parent's failure to register is a further
rejection of you. That is certainly possible (more so if you are my age or
Robin's) but if you are younger and in an age where single parents are
encouraged by the welfare system to keep the children born to them, there
may well be a reason for your parent or parent's non-registration.

Doug Thomas
Robin Harritt
2004-09-17 10:53:26 UTC
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Post by doug thomas
Post by Matt Probert
On Thu, 16 Sep 2004 12:31:48 +0100 Robin Harritt
Post by Robin Harritt
Have all of you given up being adopted, or separated by adoption, or
even caring about adoption and the effects - good and bad - that it has
on people's lives?
What about you, Robin?
Were you adopted? Do you know the trauma it can cause being "dumped"
as a baby, and spending your life being told how you were adopted and
"how lucky you are not to be in an orphanage" ???
The anguish one goes through wondering whether or not to trace one's
natural parents, wondering why you were deserted, whether or not you
have siblings, and perhaps most of all who the hell you are?
Or the second feeling of desertion that comes after spending months
patiently waiting, and being interviewed by social services before you
put your details on the adoption contact register only to find that
none of your natural relatives have registered, as though they not
only dumped you like an unwanted burger wrapper but have forgotten you
just as quick?
I can't think of anything positive to say about adoption, except for
cases I know of where babies have been adopted to protect from a
childhood of abuse.
Matt
--
The Probert Encyclopaedia - Beyond Britannica
http://www.probertencyclopaedia.com
I have been absent for some period of time now, as I ran out of things to
say,
This does however bring me back.
I am an adoptee who is now a barrister and solicitor and often represent
parents whose children have been lost to Children's Aid.
Many of the parents whose children are adopted are unable or unwilling to
put their names on the adoption registers through no fault of their own.
Mental illness springs to mind as one reason, and another is sheer ignorance
of the facts relating to adoption disclosure.
You have a presumption that a parent's failure to register is a further
rejection of you. That is certainly possible (more so if you are my age or
Robin's) but if you are younger and in an age where single parents are
encouraged by the welfare system to keep the children born to them, there
may well be a reason for your parent or parent's non-registration.
Doug Thomas
More likely perhaps when adoptees are Doug's and my age, the original rejection was by the grandparents rather than by the mother, who in most cases would have dearly loved to have kept her child, sometimes mothers will not register until those who made them give up their child have gone from the scene, but more often they simply do not know that they have the opportunity to.

Robin
Lyndon
2004-09-16 21:26:59 UTC
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Post by Matt Probert
On Thu, 16 Sep 2004 12:31:48 +0100 Robin Harritt
Post by Robin Harritt
Have all of you given up being adopted, or separated by adoption, or
even caring about adoption and the effects - good and bad - that it has
on people's lives?
What about you, Robin?
Were you adopted? Do you know the trauma it can cause being "dumped"
as a baby, and spending your life being told how you were adopted and
"how lucky you are not to be in an orphanage" ???
The anguish one goes through wondering whether or not to trace one's
natural parents, wondering why you were deserted, whether or not you
have siblings, and perhaps most of all who the hell you are?
Or the second feeling of desertion that comes after spending months
patiently waiting, and being interviewed by social services before you
put your details on the adoption contact register only to find that
none of your natural relatives have registered, as though they not
only dumped you like an unwanted burger wrapper but have forgotten you
just as quick?
I can't think of anything positive to say about adoption, except for
cases I know of where babies have been adopted to protect from a
childhood of abuse.
Matt
Hi Matt. Through my association with the Natural Parents Network I've met a
large number of mothers whose children were adopted. I also have a very
close and personal experience as the birth father of an adopted son. I would
not want to try to talk for these mothers, but I think they would all agree
that hardly a day goes by when they don't think about the child that they
lost. Believe me, the ones that I have met *never* forget, and the pain of
the loss never goes away.

There are many reasons why parents do not put their details on the adoption
register. Most will never have heard of it. Most will have been given the
strongest message at the time of the adoption that the adoption was
permanent, and no further contact would ever be possible.

Lyndon
Ray Ingham
2004-09-21 11:04:40 UTC
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Post by Lyndon
Post by Matt Probert
On Thu, 16 Sep 2004 12:31:48 +0100 Robin Harritt
Post by Robin Harritt
Have all of you given up being adopted, or separated by adoption, or
even caring about adoption and the effects - good and bad - that it has
on people's lives?
What about you, Robin?
Were you adopted? Do you know the trauma it can cause being "dumped"
as a baby, and spending your life being told how you were adopted and
"how lucky you are not to be in an orphanage" ???
The anguish one goes through wondering whether or not to trace one's
natural parents, wondering why you were deserted, whether or not you
have siblings, and perhaps most of all who the hell you are?
Or the second feeling of desertion that comes after spending months
patiently waiting, and being interviewed by social services before you
put your details on the adoption contact register only to find that
none of your natural relatives have registered, as though they not
only dumped you like an unwanted burger wrapper but have forgotten you
just as quick?
I can't think of anything positive to say about adoption, except for
cases I know of where babies have been adopted to protect from a
childhood of abuse.
Matt
Hi Matt. Through my association with the Natural Parents Network I've met a
large number of mothers whose children were adopted. I also have a very
close and personal experience as the birth father of an adopted son. I would
not want to try to talk for these mothers, but I think they would all agree
that hardly a day goes by when they don't think about the child that they
lost. Believe me, the ones that I have met *never* forget, and the pain of
the loss never goes away.
There are many reasons why parents do not put their details on the adoption
register. Most will never have heard of it. Most will have been given the
strongest message at the time of the adoption that the adoption was
permanent, and no further contact would ever be possible.
Lyndon
I found my mum when I was 54. She said that the pain never goes away and in
fact gets worse as time goes by. She had never heard of any adoption
register she just "knew" that she would never be able to look for me
because that was what she ws told at the time. Also the dramas it would
have caused with her family (in her eyes) would have been horrendous. Also
she was a widow and was worried about how her husband's family would have
taken the news of her "past".
It is easy to judge natural mothers (and fathers too I suppose) but we (I
hope) are living in a different world than they grew up in.
BTW Hi Lyndon, good to see you reappear
Ray
Lyndon
2004-09-21 19:34:38 UTC
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Post by Ray Ingham
BTW Hi Lyndon, good to see you reappear
Ray
Thanks Ray. I lurk a lot but seldom have anything to add so keep fairly
quiet.

Lyndon
doug thomas
2004-09-16 20:34:29 UTC
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Post by Robin Harritt
Have all of you given up being adopted, or separated by adoption, or
even caring about adoption and the effects - good and bad - that it has
on people's lives?
Robin
Robin

I'm still looking - I thought I had a live one, in Ireland, with the correct
first initials, and had some difficulty finding out if she was the right
person.

I learned that the Golden Pages do a really crappy job of forwarding e-mail
on to solicitors.

Anyway, Helen (helicon to you posters) was kind enough to make the trip for
me from home to Wicklow and found out that the person I had honed in on had
a different first name.

Now I found someone who would be about the right age in Australia, but she
has three children before my date of birth, and would have had to desert
them in the Aussie Wilds, and make her way to Buxton within a year of the
birth of the last of them to have me, so I think that she is out.

Doug Thomas
Robin Harritt
2004-09-17 10:59:03 UTC
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Post by doug thomas
Post by Robin Harritt
Have all of you given up being adopted, or separated by adoption, or
even caring about adoption and the effects - good and bad - that it has
on people's lives?
Robin
Robin
I'm still looking - I thought I had a live one, in Ireland, with the correct
first initials, and had some difficulty finding out if she was the right
person.
I learned that the Golden Pages do a really crappy job of forwarding e-mail
on to solicitors.
Anyway, Helen (helicon to you posters) was kind enough to make the trip for
me from home to Wicklow and found out that the person I had honed in on had
a different first name.
Now I found someone who would be about the right age in Australia, but she
has three children before my date of birth, and would have had to desert
them in the Aussie Wilds, and make her way to Buxton within a year of the
birth of the last of them to have me, so I think that she is out.
Doug Thomas
Doug

What makes you think that she strayed from Ireland? Sorry if you have
told me before and it has slipped my mind, there are so many of us
searching. Could she have come to the UK?

Robin
doug thomas
2004-09-22 16:58:52 UTC
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Post by Robin Harritt
Post by doug thomas
Post by Robin Harritt
Have all of you given up being adopted, or separated by adoption, or
even caring about adoption and the effects - good and bad - that it has
on people's lives?
Robin
Robin
I'm still looking - I thought I had a live one, in Ireland, with the correct
first initials, and had some difficulty finding out if she was the right
person.
I learned that the Golden Pages do a really crappy job of forwarding e-mail
on to solicitors.
Anyway, Helen (helicon to you posters) was kind enough to make the trip for
me from home to Wicklow and found out that the person I had honed in on had
a different first name.
Now I found someone who would be about the right age in Australia, but she
has three children before my date of birth, and would have had to desert
them in the Aussie Wilds, and make her way to Buxton within a year of the
birth of the last of them to have me, so I think that she is out.
Doug Thomas
Doug
What makes you think that she strayed from Ireland? Sorry if you have
told me before and it has slipped my mind, there are so many of us
searching. Could she have come to the UK?
Robin
Robin

I was born in Buxton, England, and adopted there to a Canadian family. At
the library, my birth mother's name did not appear in the electoral records
for the years 1953 and 1955, and the year I was born was missing.

My mother was employed as a nursing aide at a local old folks home, and I
was told there was a good possibility that she was from Ireland.

Doug Thomas
Robin Harritt
2004-09-22 17:36:29 UTC
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Post by doug thomas
Post by Robin Harritt
Post by doug thomas
Post by Robin Harritt
Have all of you given up being adopted, or separated by adoption, or
even caring about adoption and the effects - good and bad - that it has
on people's lives?
Robin
Robin
I'm still looking - I thought I had a live one, in Ireland, with the
correct
Post by Robin Harritt
Post by doug thomas
first initials, and had some difficulty finding out if she was the right
person.
I learned that the Golden Pages do a really crappy job of forwarding
e-mail
Post by Robin Harritt
Post by doug thomas
on to solicitors.
Anyway, Helen (helicon to you posters) was kind enough to make the trip
for
Post by Robin Harritt
Post by doug thomas
me from home to Wicklow and found out that the person I had honed in on
had
Post by Robin Harritt
Post by doug thomas
a different first name.
Now I found someone who would be about the right age in Australia, but
she
Post by Robin Harritt
Post by doug thomas
has three children before my date of birth, and would have had to desert
them in the Aussie Wilds, and make her way to Buxton within a year of the
birth of the last of them to have me, so I think that she is out.
Doug Thomas
Doug
What makes you think that she strayed from Ireland? Sorry if you have
told me before and it has slipped my mind, there are so many of us
searching. Could she have come to the UK?
Robin
Robin
I was born in Buxton, England, and adopted there to a Canadian family. At
the library, my birth mother's name did not appear in the electoral records
for the years 1953 and 1955, and the year I was born was missing.
My mother was employed as a nursing aide at a local old folks home, and I
was told there was a good possibility that she was from Ireland.
Doug Thomas
Hi Doug

I have always been under the impression that citizens of the Republic of
Ireland who reside in the United Kingdom have a right to vote here in
the same way as they would have prior to devolution, as they have always
had a right of residence here. That is not say that a young woman in
service would necessarily have known of her right to vote or have wished
to exercise it. However it would have been seen as a head of household's
responsibility to ensure that anyone in his house entitled to vote would
appear on the Electoral Roll. When I was searching for my mother from
much the same era, in 1951 or 1952 she suddenly disappears from her
parents address. For that year and for a few years following WW11, some
ERs often had a separate section at the back showing people who had
recently moved within the constituency, at least that is how it appears
in Romford. She would of course have had to be in her 21st year or older
to appear on an Electoral Register at that time. There would no doubt be
a copy of the missing ER at the British Library.

Have you checked the Marriage Indexes? http://www.1837online.com

Robin
Robin Harritt
2004-09-29 09:41:39 UTC
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Ms Hodge has answered my MP's letter, She believes that the recent
consultation was adequate.

She says:


/".... Mr Harritt also makes the point that the consultation
exercise on the draft regulations and guidance did not meet the
guidance in the Code of Practice on Consultation. I am unable to
accept this point. First, the Code of Practice requires that we
consult widely through out [sic] the process, allowing a minimum
twelve weeks for written consultation. The consultation period
on the access to information proposals totaled four months and
the document was made widely available through the adoption
website, the DfES e-consultation site and in hard copy format.
Second, the consultation document also received significant
media coverage through the national press, television and radio
as well as in the relevant professional journals. I do however
admit that some stakeholders experienced delays in obtaining
hard copies of the consultation document and officials have
pursued these complaints with the department's distribution
company, Prolog. Where there was a significant delay in
obtaining a hard copy of the document, we allowed stakeholders
to submit their consultation responses beyond the deadline date
of 31 July./

/As I am sure Mr Harritt will appreciate, the access to
information provisions represent one of the most complex and
emotive areas of the Adoption and Children Act. That is why we
need the input of stakeholders to help shape the final document
and ensure it is clear, concise and workable. I am satisfied
that any person with an interest in adoption was given ample
opportunity to submit their views. We received a large number
of responses from a wide range of people involved in adoption -
including adoption professionals, adopted people, adoptive
parents and birth relatives. We are now looking carefully at the
comments and suggestions that have been submitted as work is
taken forward to finalise the regulations and guidance by the
end of this year. We will be providing feedback on those
responses as required by the Code of Practice...."/


If anyone disagrees with Ms Hodge that this has been an adequate
consultation or that it has complied with the Code of Practice which
was outlined at the end of the Feedback form for the consultation,
(and the same applies to the consultation on Adoption Support
Survives and Adoption Support Agencies Regulations) please make your
views known to Ms Margaret Hodge MP at
***@dfes.gsi.gov.uk and if you feel inclined to make a
formal complaint about just how poor the consultations have been
then you can make a formal complaint in the first instance to:

David Holmes, Divisional Manager,
DfES, Looked After Children Division
Room 101 Wellington House,
133-155 Waterloo Road,
London SE1 8UG.

Perhaps then she will take another look at their definition of
"stakeholders in adoption" various social work organisations may
well have been given a say, few of us who are genuinely affected by
this legislation have been.

Posted by Robin Harritt

http://harritt.net

sandi
2004-09-17 08:09:49 UTC
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Have all of you given up being adopted, or separated by adoption, or even
caring about adoption and the effects - good and bad - that it has on
people's lives?
Robin
Hi Robin,
I'm still here too - lurking mainly
For those that dont know im one of 10 children(at least) 2 fathers one
mother (for want of a better word)
5 of the 10 were adopted - luckily for me ive been reunited with a few but
still 2 brothers to find (born in 1964 and 1965)
I feel guilty at times as i was the only one kept -those that werent adopted
were brought up in care /foster gomes. But my childhood was horrendous and i
wish i'd been the one adopted (long story and a bit personal so forgive me
for not going into details)
anyway just wanted to say im still around.
Sandi
Robin Harritt
2004-09-17 11:25:43 UTC
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Post by sandi
Post by Robin Harritt
Have all of you given up being adopted, or separated by adoption,
or even caring about adoption and the effects - good and bad - that
it has on people's lives?
Robin
Hi Robin,
I'm still here too - lurking mainly For those that dont know im one
of 10 children(at least) 2 fathers one mother (for want of a better
word) 5 of the 10 were adopted - luckily for me ive been reunited
with a few but still 2 brothers to find (born in 1964 and 1965)
I feel guilty at times as i was the only one kept -those that werent
adopted were brought up in care /foster gomes. But my childhood was
horrendous and i wish i'd been the one adopted (long story and a bit
personal so forgive me for not going into details) anyway just wanted
to say im still around. Sandi
Hi Sandi

Hope you have some luck with the 2 remaining brothers, are you any
nearer than when we last spoke?

Robin
sandi
2004-09-17 22:50:13 UTC
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Hi Sandi
Hope you have some luck with the 2 remaining brothers, are you any nearer
than when we last spoke?
Robin
Hi again Robin :O)
Not sure when we last spoke I have a feeling it was some time
ago?
Last year i was contacted by a (full) sister (she found me through 1stly
friends reunited then genes connected) she informed me when we met that
another sister had grown up with her(adopted by same people) anyway cutting
a long sory VERY short i met the 'other' sister last September and have
stayed in contact with both.
BTW Chrissie phoned me the other day -i'd lost her details as my pc had
died - glad we are back in touch now :o)
Please excuse typos
Anyway The sister who 'found' me game me years and months of birth and names
at birth of the other 2 brothers but i havent really got any further(not
really looked into it much farther tbh)
Sandi
Blue
2004-09-17 09:20:15 UTC
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I am out here, and I am what I think a lucky person.

Adopted in 1953 and only this year decided to start looking for my birth
mother.

I found a web site that did the whole thing for me, search and the mediation
that followed.

Conclusion - found that i have Aunty, several cousins plus half brother and
2 half sisters, but most of all I found my Mum. We are in contact with each
other, either by phone, letter or email each week and eventually in near
future hope to meet up.

Yes I was worried about all the consequeces of taking such action, but for
me was the best thing I have done to answer a lot the questions of my past.
Robin Harritt
2004-09-17 10:42:40 UTC
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Post by Blue
I am out here, and I am what I think a lucky person.
Adopted in 1953 and only this year decided to start looking for my birth
mother.
I found a web site that did the whole thing for me, search and the mediation
that followed.
Conclusion - found that i have Aunty, several cousins plus half brother and
2 half sisters, but most of all I found my Mum. We are in contact with each
other, either by phone, letter or email each week and eventually in near
future hope to meet up.
Yes I was worried about all the consequeces of taking such action, but for
me was the best thing I have done to answer a lot the questions of my past.
Of course, by this time next year, such sites will become illegal unless
the people running them can meet the requirements to register as
Adoption Support Agencies under the Care Standards Act 2000 and the
Adoption and Children Act 2002. Quite unlikely in most cases.

But then, I assume that is what everyone wants anyway, as so few people
who are actually affected by adoption as adults bothered to answer the
recent consultations where the government asked us all for our views.

Robin
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