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Experts?
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Robin Harritt
2008-11-20 13:31:11 UTC
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What is there about handing your child over for adoption, to the first
social worker or moral welfare worker to appear on the seen, that would make
you an 'expert' on anything at all?

Perhaps I'm one of those fortunate adoptees whose mother's fought the
adoption process tooth and nail for years, until defeated by poverty. And in
my case left me the legacy of several hundred pages of documentation on that
process (and some useful life experience fighting for access to that
documentation from the agency, the Local Authority and the Court)

Why should I be impressed that someone who gave up their child for adoption
against their own will, without a fight, is any kind of expert on adoption?

That is what I am being expected to take on board here in the UK, that the
mere fact of having handed your child over for adoption renders you an
expert on every aspect of adoption, without any need for any further genuine
study of the subject

Is there a natural mother out there in the UK who can tell me about their
fight, back in the 1950s 60s or 70s, to prevent their child from being
adopted, without good reason and against their own will?

Why would anyone in any kind of responsible position in government or any
kind of authority take a blind bit of notice of people like this

http://groups.msn.com/ForgottenMothers-/general.msnw ?

Where are all the sane natural mothers with something genuine to say,
something that might get government to look in to the wrongs of adoption in
the so called 'Baby Scoop Era' in the UK?

Robin Harritt

http://harritt.eu

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Robin Harritt
2008-11-21 13:58:09 UTC
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Post by Robin Harritt
What is there about handing your child over for adoption, to the first
social worker or moral welfare worker to appear on the seen, that would make
you an 'expert' on anything at all?
Perhaps I'm one of those fortunate adoptees whose mother's fought the
adoption process tooth and nail for years, until defeated by poverty. And in
my case left me the legacy of several hundred pages of documentation on that
process (and some useful life experience fighting for access to that
documentation from the agency, the Local Authority and the Court)
Why should I be impressed that someone who gave up their child for adoption
against their own will, without a fight, is any kind of expert on adoption?
That is what I am being expected to take on board here in the UK, that the
mere fact of having handed your child over for adoption renders you an
expert on every aspect of adoption, without any need for any further genuine
study of the subject
Is there a natural mother out there in the UK who can tell me about their
fight, back in the 1950s 60s or 70s, to prevent their child from being
adopted, without good reason and against their own will?
Why would anyone in any kind of responsible position in government or any
kind of authority take a blind bit of notice of people like this
http://groups.msn.com/ForgottenMothers-/general.msnw ?
Where are all the sane natural mothers with something genuine to say,
something that might get government to look in to the wrongs of adoption in
the so called 'Baby Scoop Era' in the UK?
Robin Harritt
http://harritt.eu
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I'm pretty sure that when the Commission for Social Care Inspection coined
that phrase,'Experts by Experience' what they meant was expertise gained
from caring for someone at home and experiences similar to that

I'm sure that they didn't mean bile, bitterness and hatred over one single
event in life, such as that which is being displayed on
http://groups.msn.com/ForgottenMothers-/general.msnw however justified it
may be to have those feelings, they are just that feelings, they are not
types of expertise

It's the most ridiculous thing I've heard since Mrs. Basquill started
referring to herself as a 'Chair' and Trackers International as an
'International research foundation', with its HQ in her grotty little
council house back bedroom office

Very few people in the UK take Patricia Basquill, Forgotten Mothers or
Trackers International at all seriously

It beggars belief that some gullible Americans do still take them seriously.
I would think that if you wish to be taken seriously as a therapist and
social worker and expert on adoption trauma as Joe Soll obviously does, then
you'd be a bit more careful of your professional credibility
http://groups.msn.com/adoptese/general.msnw?action=get_message&ID_Message=43
444

Please if you are in the UK don't send sensitive personal information to
Trackers International. There are far to many concerns about it and its
proprietor

If you are a natural parent in the UK and need support, there are genuine
registered charity organisations run by other natural parents that you can
turn to such as the Natural Parents Network http://www.n-p-n.co.uk/

Robin Harritt

http://harritt.eu

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Robin Harritt
2008-12-01 23:44:13 UTC
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Post by Robin Harritt
Post by Robin Harritt
What is there about handing your child over for adoption, to the first
social worker or moral welfare worker to appear on the seen, that would make
you an 'expert' on anything at all?
Perhaps I'm one of those fortunate adoptees whose mother's fought the
adoption process tooth and nail for years, until defeated by poverty. And in
my case left me the legacy of several hundred pages of documentation on that
process (and some useful life experience fighting for access to that
documentation from the agency, the Local Authority and the Court)
Why should I be impressed that someone who gave up their child for adoption
against their own will, without a fight, is any kind of expert on adoption?
That is what I am being expected to take on board here in the UK, that the
mere fact of having handed your child over for adoption renders you an
expert on every aspect of adoption, without any need for any further genuine
study of the subject
Is there a natural mother out there in the UK who can tell me about their
fight, back in the 1950s 60s or 70s, to prevent their child from being
adopted, without good reason and against their own will?
Why would anyone in any kind of responsible position in government or any
kind of authority take a blind bit of notice of people like this
http://groups.msn.com/ForgottenMothers-/general.msnw ?
Where are all the sane natural mothers with something genuine to say,
something that might get government to look in to the wrongs of adoption in
the so called 'Baby Scoop Era' in the UK?
Robin Harritt
http://harritt.eu
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I'm pretty sure that when the Commission for Social Care Inspection coined
that phrase,'Experts by Experience' what they meant was expertise gained
from caring for someone at home and experiences similar to that
I'm sure that they didn't mean bile, bitterness and hatred over one single
event in life, such as that which is being displayed on
http://groups.msn.com/ForgottenMothers-/general.msnw however justified it
may be to have those feelings, they are just that feelings, they are not
types of expertise
It's the most ridiculous thing I've heard since Mrs. Basquill started
referring to herself as a 'Chair' and Trackers International as an
'International research foundation', with its HQ in her grotty little
council house back bedroom office
Very few people in the UK take Patricia Basquill, Forgotten Mothers or
Trackers International at all seriously
It beggars belief that some gullible Americans do still take them seriously.
I would think that if you wish to be taken seriously as a therapist and
social worker and expert on adoption trauma as Joe Soll obviously does, then
you'd be a bit more careful of your professional credibility
http://groups.msn.com/adoptese/general.msnw?action=get_message&ID_Message=43
444
Please if you are in the UK don't send sensitive personal information to
Trackers International. There are far to many concerns about it and its
proprietor
If you are a natural parent in the UK and need support, there are genuine
registered charity organisations run by other natural parents that you can
turn to such as the Natural Parents Network http://www.n-p-n.co.uk/
Robin Harritt
http://harritt.eu
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It looks to me as if Mrs Patricia Basquill would have made a model Moral
Welfare Worker.

http://adoptionopenrecord.blogspot.com/2008/11/i-am-appalled-by-this.html

Despite all she has to say about them. She displays an attitude not far
removed from that which Moral Welfare Workers were known for back in the era
when they took part in placing children for adoption

Robin Harritt

http://harritt.eu

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