New Regulations for England & Wales

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Robin Harritt

2005-04-13 07:25:04 UTC

The following new Regulations for England & Wales have been laid before
Parliament and will become effective on the 30th of December this year.
Please take the bother to read them if you are searching, helping people to
search or hope to be searched for and your adoption was finalised in England
and Wales since the 1st of January 1927 (all but the last one affect you).

Statutory Instrument 2005 No. 890 The Adoption Information and Intermediary
Services (Pre-Commencement Adoptions) Regulations 2005

Made 22nd March 2005

Laid before Parliament 7th April 2005

Coming into force 30th December 2005

http://www.hmso.gov.uk/si/si2005/20050890.htm

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Statutory Instrument 2005 No. 924 The Adopted Children and Adoption Contact
Registers Regulations 2005

Made 24th March 2005

Laid before Parliament 29th March 2005

Coming into force 30th December 2005

Note: in fact *Children* can not use this register but the title reflects
the personal belief of Mrs Margaret Hodge MP and her Ilk that anyone who is
adopted remains for ever and ever a child in need of protection from the
intrusion of their natural family.

http://www.hmso.gov.uk/si/si2005/20050924.htm

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This one is about future adoptions

Statutory Instrument 2005 No. 888 The Disclosure of Adoption Information
(Post-Commencement Adoptions) Regulations 2005

Made 22nd March 2005

Laid before Parliament 7th April 2005

Coming into force 30th December 2005

http://www.hmso.gov.uk/si/si2005/20050888.htm

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The Adoption Support Agencies Regulations did not make it before the
restrictions related to the calling of a General Election came into effect.
But will no doubt will be laid before the new government shortly after
parliament returns

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Jurgen Klingemann

2005-04-13 21:25:40 UTC

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Hi Robin,

Who in the HELL is Margaret Hodge MP? and what is SHE hiding (a child she's
put up for adoption???) what gives this thing the right to denied MY RIGHTS
to the truth AND my rights of heritage. Does this person believe she is the
Queen and has the divine right over us all.

Disgusted James

Post by Robin Harritt
The following new Regulations for England & Wales have been laid before
Parliament and will become effective on the 30th of December this year.
Please take the bother to read them if you are searching, helping people to
search or hope to be searched for and your adoption was finalised in England
and Wales since the 1st of January 1927 (all but the last one affect you).
Statutory Instrument 2005 No. 890 The Adoption Information and
Intermediary
Services (Pre-Commencement Adoptions) Regulations 2005
Made 22nd March 2005
Laid before Parliament 7th April 2005
Coming into force 30th December 2005
http://www.hmso.gov.uk/si/si2005/20050890.htm
**********************************************************************
Statutory Instrument 2005 No. 924 The Adopted Children and Adoption Contact
Registers Regulations 2005
Made 24th March 2005
Laid before Parliament 29th March 2005
Coming into force 30th December 2005
Note: in fact *Children* can not use this register but the title reflects
the personal belief of Mrs Margaret Hodge MP and her Ilk that anyone who is
adopted remains for ever and ever a child in need of protection from the
intrusion of their natural family.
http://www.hmso.gov.uk/si/si2005/20050924.htm
************************************************************************
This one is about future adoptions
Statutory Instrument 2005 No. 888 The Disclosure of Adoption Information
(Post-Commencement Adoptions) Regulations 2005
Made 22nd March 2005
Laid before Parliament 7th April 2005
Coming into force 30th December 2005
http://www.hmso.gov.uk/si/si2005/20050888.htm
**********************************************************************
The Adoption Support Agencies Regulations did not make it before the
restrictions related to the calling of a General Election came into effect.
But will no doubt will be laid before the new government shortly after
parliament returns
*************************************************************************

Jurgen Klingemann

2005-04-13 22:12:52 UTC

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Hi Robin I've just written a scathing letter to the Leeds labour party where
Hodge is MP. I'D advise anyone who disagrees with her personal opinion to do
the same. That we adoptee who were children should remain children and
denied our rights to know, if we so wish, our heritage and the right of
contact if both parties agree.

James

Robin Harritt

2005-04-14 05:09:41 UTC

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Hi James

I was really just moaning about was the way everything to do with adoption
is the "adopted *children* so and so". Some people on the "Adopted Children
Register" which goes back to 1927 are older 70 or even 80 years old (hello
Don M are you still there). Why not call it an Adopted People Register?
Anyone who is under 18 and therefore actually a child, is not allowed to
apply for their own certificate or to go on the Adoption Contact Register,
but anyone over 18 can. The thing to complain to Ms Hodge about is that
although we adults it is still made very difficult for birth relatives to
contact us ( they do have some chance now) we're still being treated like
little children not properly capable of making up our own minds without a
"counsellor" their to help.

Robin

Post by Jurgen Klingemann
Hi Robin I've just written a scathing letter to the Leeds labour party where
Hodge is MP. I'D advise anyone who disagrees with her personal opinion to do
the same. That we adoptee who were children should remain children and
denied our rights to know, if we so wish, our heritage and the right of
contact if both parties agree.
James

Post by Robin Harritt
The following new Regulations for England & Wales have been laid before
Parliament and will become effective on the 30th of December this year.
Please take the bother to read them if you are searching, helping people to
search or hope to be searched for and your adoption was finalised in England
and Wales since the 1st of January 1927 (all but the last one affect you).
Statutory Instrument 2005 No. 890 The Adoption Information and Intermediary
Services (Pre-Commencement Adoptions) Regulations 2005
Made 22nd March 2005
Laid before Parliament 7th April 2005
Coming into force 30th December 2005
http://www.hmso.gov.uk/si/si2005/20050890.htm
**********************************************************************
Statutory Instrument 2005 No. 924 The Adopted Children and Adoption Contact
Registers Regulations 2005
Made 24th March 2005
Laid before Parliament 29th March 2005
Coming into force 30th December 2005
Note: in fact *Children* can not use this register but the title reflects
the personal belief of Mrs Margaret Hodge MP and her Ilk that anyone who is
adopted remains for ever and ever a child in need of protection from the
intrusion of their natural family.
http://www.hmso.gov.uk/si/si2005/20050924.htm
************************************************************************
This one is about future adoptions
Statutory Instrument 2005 No. 888 The Disclosure of Adoption Information
(Post-Commencement Adoptions) Regulations 2005
Made 22nd March 2005
Laid before Parliament 7th April 2005
Coming into force 30th December 2005
http://www.hmso.gov.uk/si/si2005/20050888.htm
**********************************************************************
The Adoption Support Agencies Regulations did not make it before the
restrictions related to the calling of a General Election came into effect.
But will no doubt will be laid before the new government shortly after
parliament returns
*************************************************************************

Jurgen Klingemann

2005-04-14 18:49:32 UTC

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Hi Robin, I do know the new laws are to help. BUT they don't go far enough,
this is possibly caused by people like M. Hodge who have little or no
experience in these matters. THAT is what makes my blood boil. How can
anyone who has not been in this position know what is right for us or the
birthparents..

James

Post by Robin Harritt
Hi James
I was really just moaning about was the way everything to do with adoption
is the "adopted *children* so and so". Some people on the "Adopted Children
Register" which goes back to 1927 are older 70 or even 80 years old (hello
Don M are you still there). Why not call it an Adopted People Register?
Anyone who is under 18 and therefore actually a child, is not allowed to
apply for their own certificate or to go on the Adoption Contact Register,
but anyone over 18 can. The thing to complain to Ms Hodge about is that
although we adults it is still made very difficult for birth relatives to
contact us ( they do have some chance now) we're still being treated like
little children not properly capable of making up our own minds without a
"counsellor" their to help.
Robin

Post by Robin Harritt
The following new Regulations for England & Wales have been laid before
Parliament and will become effective on the 30th of December this year.
Please take the bother to read them if you are searching, helping people to
search or hope to be searched for and your adoption was finalised in England
and Wales since the 1st of January 1927 (all but the last one affect you).
Statutory Instrument 2005 No. 890 The Adoption Information and Intermediary
Services (Pre-Commencement Adoptions) Regulations 2005
Made 22nd March 2005
Laid before Parliament 7th April 2005
Coming into force 30th December 2005
http://www.hmso.gov.uk/si/si2005/20050890.htm
**********************************************************************
Statutory Instrument 2005 No. 924 The Adopted Children and Adoption Contact
Registers Regulations 2005
Made 24th March 2005
Laid before Parliament 29th March 2005
Coming into force 30th December 2005
Note: in fact *Children* can not use this register but the title reflects
the personal belief of Mrs Margaret Hodge MP and her Ilk that anyone
who
is
adopted remains for ever and ever a child in need of protection from the
intrusion of their natural family.
http://www.hmso.gov.uk/si/si2005/20050924.htm
************************************************************************
This one is about future adoptions
Statutory Instrument 2005 No. 888 The Disclosure of Adoption Information
(Post-Commencement Adoptions) Regulations 2005
Made 22nd March 2005
Laid before Parliament 7th April 2005
Coming into force 30th December 2005
http://www.hmso.gov.uk/si/si2005/20050888.htm
**********************************************************************
The Adoption Support Agencies Regulations did not make it before the
restrictions related to the calling of a General Election came into effect.
But will no doubt will be laid before the new government shortly after
parliament returns
*************************************************************************

Ray Ingham

2005-04-14 14:07:16 UTC

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For some reason, all my life I have always had someone who took it on
themselves to 'protect' me.
I had to get counselled to get information even though I was 54 at the time.
I wasn't told I was adopted as it apparently might have upset me.
My natural mum had to be protected as well. She wasn't allowed to look for
me (no doubt for her own good in someone's opinion).
I wonder who sees the benefit in keeping all these secrets to themselves? I
would like to know how they would feel if someone did the things to them
that they are forcing on others. There seems to be a minority of adoptive
parents who don't understand the dynamics of the situation and a lot of
social worker types who caused any problems in the past and don't want to
give up their position of influence.
Still I suppose it is good for their egos!
Ray